A spiritual man once asked a religious man what is your personal divine experience and consciousness of the self (nafs)

The religious man answered

I don’t know anything about personal divine experience

All I know is to believe, worship, pray, sin, repent to Allah continuously as a routine, follow religious commands, listen to Buhary and Muslim, obediently follow the sunnah of Muhammed (pbuh) and listening to scholars preaching about others experiences and sigh loudly